On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:01:53 PDT, Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com> said:

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However, given mil-grade VPNs these days, there is no way they can read what

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you sent. They can only tell that you sent something. However, I just discovered the Steganography stuff in my SuSE Linux distribution, hmmmmm.

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But, they still know where it came from and where it went.

As Bruce Schneier said, the problem with steganography is that you need a good cover story for why you're mailing JPG's of giraffes back and forth...

Dear Vladis; You need to to separate the forward and the inverse problems here. Inverse problem : Can you find a few message bytes in gigabytes of files going back and forth between everyone on the web, or even on an ISP, in order to find a target ? Probably not; at least its tough. Forward problem : GIVEN A TARGET, can you look at all of their traffic over and over until you find their message bytes buried in their traffic ? Much higher probability. And, say, porn to Pakistan will appear in a new light. I would submit that Carnivore from what I have seen deals with the easier forward problem. Marshall Eubanks tme@21rst-century.com