Raised floor, Solid floor... or carpet?
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed... http://www.iphouse.com/ Scott.
LoL.... Best April fools I've seen un quite a while! Thanks for sharing Bryan On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:04 AM, "Scott Howard" <scott@doc.net.au> wrote:
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Scott.
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
...Wow I got totally owned. Retreating to my corner, -Jack Carrozzo On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu> wrote:
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
hahaha I fell for it HOOK LINE AND SINKER!!! DAMN YOU GUYS!!!!
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:43:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Raised floor, Solid floor... or carpet? From: jack@crepinc.com To: michael.holstein@csuohio.edu CC: nanog@nanog.org
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
....Wow I got totally owned.
Retreating to my corner,
-Jack Carrozzo
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu> wrote:
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
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hahaha I fell for it HOOK LINE AND SINKER!!!
DAMN YOU GUYS!!!!
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:43:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Raised floor, Solid floor... or carpet? From: jack@crepinc.com To: michael.holstein@csuohio.edu CC: nanog@nanog.org
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
....Wow I got totally owned.
Retreating to my corner,
-Jack Carrozzo
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu> wrote:
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
Its an april fools joke for them. Dare I say that I have actually seen DCs with carpeting. My jaw dropped but it does exist. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLtN/cAAoJEOcnyWxdB1IrBoQH/1gTCRTcqCzsEVLxkxvuRKrb hdMT2YdoEe6L2iw1mbq4Gie1OrPIQdS5WwyraVqhlyL8BfSJ64bxWXj+FnqvK7fd 4ZTrbtWbS9yaPm/IO2CrD6FsVzrAH31czYQkpliJpJ9/V3PpfXFz+Bflq9STYhQR /bAGFbivqhWooGV+pL2dYjej84kTaGfmPxhic8nuiNgGY8b57lusutTtx7CXbsUK 9dQk4o2GUHAYtmQdXe4p6/MyWobsfUxOlEz8O1zGciN8tEBasbf0Vp/QodSUCVAi 3HnDeBOd9UwJO4qViGkZUiUvvMi5V9IcloHOIc7TC6ky9bRDuxedyQrSB76vlKk= =maX4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Its an april fools joke for them. Dare I say that I have actually seen DCs with carpeting. My jaw dropped but it does exist.
We had carpeted floor tiles in a data center where I used to work. It was bound to the raised floor panels, and I was told it had anti static properties. Never noticed a static issue, but the room had proper air handlers with humidity control. The room was still loud, I'm not sure what dampening attributes it had for noise reduction. After a while the tiles start to wear a bit on the edges I suppose, but they had been in place for 5 years I believe and it looked fine (other than where liquid spills occoured on a distant side where people had some cubicles.) The puller to lift floor tiles had evil teeth, not suction cups. It could bite. - Ethan O'Toole
Its an april fools joke for them. Dare I say that I have actually seen DCs with carpeting. My jaw dropped but it does exist.
We had carpeted floor tiles in a data center where I used to work. It was bound to the raised floor panels, and I was told it had anti static properties. Never noticed a static issue, but the room had proper air handlers with humidity control.
Anti-static properties are obtained easily enough but sometimes the material requires periodic re-treating; the normal industrial chemical products like Staticide and Stat-trol are sometimes a little "stinky" and not always something you want to spray unless you can let it dry overnite. Since the floor tile does not have to be covered in tile and can have metal directly below the carpet, I would imagine that the anti-static properties would be halfway decent even with minimal treatments. Those who do not care for the stench of stinky chemicals seem to favor treating with Downy (yes, really, no Apr1). Especially in the earlier days of the Internet, where small ISP's set up shops in existing space, it seemed quite common to find them spraying a water/Downy mix on the carpets periodically, which left a characteristically odd "boy are my clothes ever so soft today" smell, and really did a number on static. What amazes me these days is how common it is to go someplace where the cubies are in "dry" conditions with carpets, and you see people hauling gear and cards back and forth while you can feel the static. You can get regular anti-static carpeting for office spaces too, though the problem with anything carrying the label "anti-static" tends to be expense. The meaning of the term also varies, ranging from static reduction to static suppression to static elimination. Ah, here we go: http://staticsmart.com/esd-static-control-products/access_floors.php ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
The old carpeting pics of iphouse looks like the one NIKHEF still has in Amsterdam. It is one of AMS-IX' locations. Telehouse North in London also has wonderfull carpeting... Bas
On Thursday 01 April 2010 02:36:56 pm telmnstr@757.org wrote:
Its an april fools joke for them. Dare I say that I have actually seen DCs with carpeting. My jaw dropped but it does exist.
We had carpeted floor tiles in a data center where I used to work. It was bound to the raised floor panels, and I was told it had anti static properties. Never noticed a static issue, but the room had proper air handlers with humidity control.
We here at PARI have 30,000 square feet of carpeted raised floor. 18,000 square feet of that is two levels of one whole wing of one of the main buildings, with recessed subfloors so there are no ramps or steps; the transition from normal to raised is seamless. A large portion of the other 12,000 square feet is, pardon the usage, 'puke yellow' in color. The 18,000 sq feet is a nice gray color. All have static draining foil and/or wires woven in the carpet for static control. Thankfully no zinc whiskers on any of ours. (I'm posting this on April 2 specifically so that statement won't be misunderstood).
The puller to lift floor tiles had evil teeth, not suction cups. It could bite.
Again, I'm posting this on April 2 specifically so that this won't be taken as a joke, but, PARI being in the sticks, so to speak, that is, right in the middle of the Pisgah National Forest, I've often carried a puller with me outside when going to the pickup at night, along with my flashlight (we're an observatory; there are no outside lights on at night). We have seen bobcats, coyotes, eastern cougars (rare, but around), black bears, and wild hogs; rumor has it that there are wolves within 50 miles. I've often thought one of the pullers would be a fantastic close quarters defensive non-fatal weapon.....but haven't had to use one yet. I have, however, had a puller slip and get my knee before....
On Friday 02 April 2010 10:29:10 am Lamar Owen wrote:
A large portion of the other 12,000 square feet is, pardon the usage, 'puke yellow' in color. The 18,000 sq feet is a nice gray color. All have static draining foil and/or wires woven in the carpet for static control.
A couple of pictures (links are each on one line): http://www.pari.edu/about_pari/pari-photos/archived-photos/volunteers/friend... of-pari-volunteer-weekend-march-28-2009/IMG_5156.JPG/view http://www.pari.edu/about_pari/pari-photos/archived-photos/volunteers/friend... of-pari-volunteer-weekend-march-28-2009/IMG_5153.JPG/view These were taken last year on the day a group of volunteers helped pull 60+ shielded Cat6 ethernet drops from the data center to the multimedia room; this was done to reduce RFI to the radio telescopes.
Nice to see smaller companies take the time to put up a good April fool's joke as well.
Carpeted datacenters are no joke, check out Telehouse in London Docklands, the existing two buildings have been *fully carpeted* in both the corridors and data floors for some time (but as carpeted tiles, not a continual carpet, a bit like this: http://www.allcarpets.com.au/images/carpettiles.jpg) Dave.
"Our schedule for replacing the carpet was accelerated due to an approaching forced service contract expiration on our Roombas. The carpet pile was just getting to be too short for the Roombas to be efficient in their routes, and they would sometimes choke." Shear brilliance. That must be rather surprising to people used to standard facilities, seeing a hoard of Roombas stalking you... -Jack Carrozzo On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Scott Howard <scott@doc.net.au> wrote:
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Scott.
Some questions: What about dust? Wouldn't the carpet hold down more dust then a regular floor, and at some point, the dust could kick back up and go right back into the servers? What about maintenance of the floor? (sweep/brooming wise) Isn't it easier to use something like iRobot on a flat floor than a carpeted one? I don't know the exact coding standards, but would it not be better to use those sound proof materials in the corner and walls around the datacenter? Wouldn't a carpet be bad for possible fires/flames or sparks?
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:55:20 -0700 Subject: Raised floor, Solid floor... or carpet? From: scott@doc.net.au To: nanog@nanog.org
Adding to the recent debate over raised v's solid floor, seem there's another option that wasn't discussed...
Scott.
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