If I get the time to find it, I think I've got just the right tie.... see y'all in Montreal. Marc

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HINT: Get somebody to tie the tie and then have it sewed together or something so it doesn't accidentally come undone.

Or get a clip-on tie. Even works with t-shirts.

...arun --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arun Welch 5000 Arlington Centre Blvd Lead Software Engineer Columbus, OH 43220 CompuServe awelch@csi.compuserve.com