Verizon NY (LEC) prior notification
Is anyone aware of a method to "mark" or "flag" certain services with Verizon NY (the LEC) as critical, such that changes aren't made to the services without prior notification? I know it's a lot to ask of Verizon. We experienced an outage on a number of PRI that were rehomed to another switch without our knowledge. The PRIs worked great outbound, but our customer noticed when all the DIDs stopped working. (They forgot to move the DIDs from old switch.) Thanks, -cjp
On 2013-05-30 16:37, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote:
Is anyone aware of a method to "mark" or "flag" certain services with Verizon NY (the LEC) as critical, such that changes aren't made to the services without prior notification? I know it's a lot to ask of Verizon.
Probably better to watch stats for each NPA-NXX calling each DID. You can fit a distribution to the data for the length of time before another call arrives, and automatically throw a ticket at your carrier support group when the time between calls exceeds 99% of previous data. Patrick
On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:04:17 +0800, Patrick said:
Probably better to watch stats for each NPA-NXX calling each DID. You can fit a distribution to the data for the length of time before another call arrives, and automatically throw a ticket at your carrier support group when the time between calls exceeds 99% of previous data.
May not be workable without a sufficiently high call rate 24/7. If you're a small call center that usually has 3-4 calls per hour at 2AM, now long is "too long without a call, time to get suspicious"? Does your answer change if you're a 911 or suicide hotline? (Yes, if you usually handle 50-60 calls per hour even at 2AM, a 5 minute gap is probably suspicious. As I said, it depends highly on normal call rates)
On 2013-05-30 21:43, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
May not be workable without a sufficiently high call rate 24/7. If you're a small call center that usually has 3-4 calls per hour at 2AM, now long is "too long without a call, time to get suspicious"?
Correct. Alternatively, perhaps VZ has an outages list one could get on for any planned upgrades, so that one could test post-operation. While this would have helped the OP, it covers much (?) less of the error space. Or maybe get to know the local switch techs. Does VZ ex-nynex still have local switch techs, or did they centralize like Sprint/Kansas City? Other solutions? Patrick
On Fri, 31 May 2013, Patrick wrote:
On 2013-05-30 21:43, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
May not be workable without a sufficiently high call rate 24/7. If you're a small call center that usually has 3-4 calls per hour at 2AM, now long is "too long without a call, time to get suspicious"?
Correct.
Alternatively, perhaps VZ has an outages list one could get on for any planned upgrades, so that one could test post-operation. While this would have helped the OP, it covers much (?) less of the error space.
Or maybe get to know the local switch techs. Does VZ ex-nynex still have local switch techs, or did they centralize like Sprint/Kansas City?
The vast majority of Verizon's COs are not staffed with on-site techs on a regular basis. I suspect the same is true of most telcos. jms
Sadly, I agree. If anyone is there late, it's a noc administrator looking at pictures of cats. Sent from my Mobile Device. -------- Original message -------- From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org> Date: 05/30/2013 8:11 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Patrick <nanog@haller.ws> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Verizon NY (LEC) prior notification On Fri, 31 May 2013, Patrick wrote:
On 2013-05-30 21:43, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
May not be workable without a sufficiently high call rate 24/7. If you're a small call center that usually has 3-4 calls per hour at 2AM, now long is "too long without a call, time to get suspicious"?
Correct.
Alternatively, perhaps VZ has an outages list one could get on for any planned upgrades, so that one could test post-operation. While this would have helped the OP, it covers much (?) less of the error space.
Or maybe get to know the local switch techs. Does VZ ex-nynex still have local switch techs, or did they centralize like Sprint/Kansas City?
The vast majority of Verizon's COs are not staffed with on-site techs on a regular basis. I suspect the same is true of most telcos. jms
On 2013-05-31 04:07, Warren Bailey wrote:
Sadly, I agree. If anyone is there late, it's a noc administrator looking at pictures of cats.
Sure. However, when you know the switch (or special circuits) techs and occasionally eat where they do, you'll probably catch an FYI or two that switch X that carries your traffic is being forklift-upgraded next week.
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