Net Effects: H&R Block is rid of CompuServe. AOL owns CompuServe's subscribers and is out of the business of deploying modems and routers. WorldCom owns the networks built by AOL and CompuServe and sells network services to AOL. The big get bigger.
Couldn't help noting that UUnet will run modems and routers for AOL+Compuserve and it continues to do so for their biggest competitor MSN (at least the last time I checked). Antitrust? As a Web services provider we are already seeing AS701 as the biggest consumer of our customer contents. Anyone care to share their view of how the big boys rank in terms of traffic? IMHO this does have just a tad bit more relevance to operations that the original thread :-) Regards, Sanjay.
Net Effects: H&R Block is rid of CompuServe. AOL owns CompuServe's subscribers and is out of the business of deploying modems and routers. WorldCom owns the networks built by AOL and CompuServe and sells network services to AOL. The big get bigger.
Couldn't help noting that UUnet will run modems and routers for AOL+Compuserve and it continues to do so for their biggest competitor MSN (at least the last time I checked). Antitrust?
As a Web services provider we are already seeing AS701 as the biggest consumer of our customer contents. Anyone care to share their view of how the big boys rank in terms of traffic? IMHO this does have just a tad bit more relevance to operations that the original thread :-)
Regards, Sanjay.
Nanog Folk, (my apologies for the earlier blank mail) Sanjay,
services to AOL. The big get bigger.
Couldn't help noting that UUnet will run modems and routers for AOL+Compuserve and it continues to do so for their biggest competitor MSN (at least the last time I checked). Antitrust?
I can't help but respond to this ridiculous suggestion. Please look up the definition of Antitrust before you go rumor-mongering without facts. The principle of antitrust is controlling a large enough segment of the market to minimize competition. Approaching a monopoly. AOL+Compuserve will continue to use multiple vendors for their customers' access. Microsoft is free to choose anyone they want. An allegation that this action is anticompetitive is simply not well thought out. -alan
On Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 06:14:03PM -0400, Alan Hannan wrote:
Couldn't help noting that UUnet will run modems and routers for AOL+Compuserve and it continues to do so for their biggest competitor MSN (at least the last time I checked). Antitrust?
I can't help but respond to this ridiculous suggestion. Please look up the definition of Antitrust before you go rumor-mongering without facts.
The principle of antitrust is controlling a large enough segment of the market to minimize competition. Approaching a monopoly.
AOL+Compuserve will continue to use multiple vendors for their customers' access. Microsoft is free to choose anyone they want.
I'm free to choose any operating system for my desktop computer that I want, also. (Anyone who doesn't get it; look it up when you get home.) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "People propose, science studies, technology Tampa Bay, Florida conforms." -- Dr. Don Norman +1 813 790 7592
As a Web services provider we are already seeing AS701 as the biggest consumer of our customer contents. Anyone care to share their view of how the big boys rank in terms of traffic? IMHO this does have just a tad bit more relevance to operations that the original thread :-)
sure, AS701 may do the most traffic, but when the most traffic is ~7%, that's hardly an anti-trust suit waiting to happen. Even MCI, UUnet, Sprint and Cerfnet (our four largest dest. ASes) combined are barely 25% of all traffic... Josh Beck - CONNECTnet Network Operations Center - jbeck@connectnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CONNECTnet INS, Inc. Phone: (619)450-0254 Fax: (619)450-3216 6370 Lusk Blvd., Suite F-208 San Diego, CA 92121 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Josh Beck wrote:
As a Web services provider we are already seeing AS701 as the biggest consumer of our customer contents. Anyone care to share
sure, AS701 may do the most traffic, but when the most traffic is ~7%,
We obviously have different applications. More than half our hosting clients are overseas businesses, most our traffic is outbound, and almost 40% of content consumers look like they are behind uunet. Our traffic is perhaps less localized, and more of it exchanged with a fewer number of larger, global providers, compared with yours. Naturally it is a cause for concern when most content consumers are moving behind one provider. I apologize for perpetuating this increasingly irrelevant thread on this list. Will stop here. Thanks all for the private and public feedback. I now realize that many providers are bound by non-disclosures to not share their traffic distribution. And our traffic distribution may be more unusual due to the specialized business we are in than I had thought. Regards, Sanjay.
participants (4)
-
Alan Hannan -
Jay R. Ashworth -
Josh Beck -
Sanjay Dani