i am told that the following session has been accepted for the nanog agenda. A Comparison of Approaches to Loc/ID, Routing Scaling, and the Universe Abstract: This session looks at and contrasts: LISP (Dino Farinacci) ILNP (Saleem Bhatti) RFC 6296 (Fred Baker) Where each is explained at an architectural level in some detail with a predetermined list of questions such as "how does this address loc/id separation, routing table scaling, incremental deployment, state of implementation/testing, ..." And then a half hour where we all sum up the similarities and differences. Maybe it will be worth writing up. The goal is education and understanding, not a contest. These are all good and interesting approaches. Weapons are not allowed, we all work for the Internet. as you can see, i am interested in o loc/id separation o rounting table scaling o deployability on the internet o current state of development what did i miss? what major attributes interest you? randy