On 3/2/13, Constantine A. Murenin <mureninc@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 March 2013 15:45, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
Now, back to ARIN: is Linode doing it right? Is vr.org doing it wrong? Are they both doing it correct, or are they both wrong? They have repeatedly disagreed, on two separate occasions, effectively claiming they themselves are the customers:
... they are assigning IP addresses to their own equipment, which belongs to the provider at all times, and the contact can be the same contact for all their resources, therefore: they are not necessarily required to display a SWIP in WHOIS. They just need to keep certain documentation. Network service providers that allocate or assign IP addresses are required to display allocations/assignments of /29 and larger in WHOIS; they can display any additional divisions in WHOIS that the org deems sensible for their network. However, (1) This isn't very pertinent to gelocation. ARIN resource holders don't have to SWIP their different datacenter networks that are all assigned to the provider, and (2) don't need to provide a street address for their listings that has a bearing on where the network is actually geographically located, WHOIS listings are contacts. Also, a SWIP would probably not stop have stopped Yelp, et al. from blocking the network. If it's in the IP address space of a VPS hosting provider. If the provider is large enough, it is almost certain that someone will have conducted activity, causing large portions of the provider's IP space to be blocked, and this is just part of the risk cost of hosting your site there. (You get a lower upfront dollar price, compared to setting up your own network and obtaining /24 direct assignment from an upstream, because you are sharing a network with other subscribers, but when one of those other subscribers commits some abuse -- your orgs VPS could be on the blocked network too) If you have issues with Linode's WHOIS listing policies, there are plenty of alternative providers; although they may be susceptible to similar blocks by Yelp etc.
Could work with IPv6, since I have a /56 from them, but I only have a single IPv4, so, per my understanding, an IPv4 SWIP is not possible.
It's conceivable to list a /32 on a RWHOIS server. But Linode do not have to do it, and most likely they will not be willing to do it. It is not unusual that a hosting provider would be unwilling to take on the additional cost of maintaining indinvidual WHOis listings for each subscriber. Or to change their WHOIS policy based on the request of one customer; possibly increasing their WHOIS record management costs by a significant amount.
C. -- -JH