I think more focus needs to be for carriers to deliver dual stack to their customers door step, whether they demand/use it or not. Small ISPs are probably in the best position to do this and will help push the big boys along with time. If we follow the network effect (reason why IPv4 lives and IPv6 is slowly growing), IPv6 needs more nodes, all other efforts are meaningless if they do not result in more users having IPv6 delivered to their door. I think people get too lost in the weeds when they start focusing on device support, home router support, user knowledge, etc. Just get it working to the people and we can figure out the rest later. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 6:01 PM To: Matthew Newton <mcn4@leicester.ac.uk> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption In message <20151001232613.GD123100@rootmail.cc.le.ac.uk>, Matthew Newton writes: Additionally it is now a OLD addressing protocol. We are about to see young adults that have never lived in a world without IPv6. It may not have been universally available when they were born but it was available. There are definitely school leavers that have never lived in a world where IPv6 did not exist. My daughter will be one of them next year when she finishes year 12. IPv6 is 7 months older than she is. Some of us have been running IPv6 in production for over a decade now and developing products that support IPv6 even longer. We have had 17 years to build up a universal IPv6 network. It should have been done by now. Mark
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