Yeah, was looking at their active solution for a customer, but just don’t know enough about it to go that route.  

David

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:17 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Well, and that's kinda where I was going.

I've used FS passive systems for years. FS has an active platform or two (that I understand, they just whitebox). Does it really do everyone one would need to do? How much of a step is it to get something more?

From: "David Bass" <davidbass570@gmail.com>
To: "Dave Bell" <me@geordish.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 8:55:21 AM

Subject: Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

On the same topic, anyone have experience with the stuff from fs.com?

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 9:53 AM Dave Bell <me@geordish.org> wrote:
Smartoptics?


Regards,
Dave

On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:


On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote:

> I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a couple different projects on my plate that require me to look at the next level of platform.
>
> In some projects, I'll be looking for needing to have someone long distances of glass without any electronics. Some spans could be over 60 miles.
>
> In some projects, I'll need to transport multiple 100-gig waves.
>
> What is the landscape like between basic passive and something like a 30 terabit Ciena? I know of multiple vendors in that space, but I like to learn more about what features I need and what features I don't need from somewhere other than the vendor's mouth. Obviously, the most reliability at the least cost as well.

400G-ZR pluggables will get you 400Gbps on a p2p dark fibre over 80km -
100km. So your main cost there will be routers that will support.

The smallest DCI solution from the leading DWDM vendors is likely to be
your cheapest option. Alternatively, if you are willing to look at the
open market, you can find gear based on older CMOS (40nm, for example),
which will now be EoL for any large scale optical network, but cost next
to nothing for a start-up with considerable capacity value.

There is a DWDM vendor that showed up on the scene back in 2008 or
thereabouts. They were selling a very cheap, 1U box that had a different
approach to DWDM from other vendors at the time. I, for the life of me,
cannot remember their name - but I do know that Randy introduced them to
me back then. Maybe he can remember :-). Not sure if they are still in
business.

Mark.