On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Paul A Vixie wrote:
Ameritech NAP Atlanta NAP :-) MAE-East MAE-West PACBell NAP Sprint NAP
In terms of meeting peering requirements, the above list is sufficient except that the ":-)" has to be read as "just kidding".
Yes, for now.
Unfortunately for my ulcer, more was said:
Sorry.
CIX may be worth connecting to as a sales thing, and PAIX is not worth connecting to yet because there are so many NAPs in that area.
Connecting to CIX won't help your sales. It does help your connectivity if you aren't otherwise able to buy T3 lines to everywhere in the universe, and it's a fine backup for folks who _can_ afford T3 lines to all of known space.
Well it sure will if you are going after gov contracts. I have have bid on several that you had to be connected to CIX in order to bid.
PAIX is the best NAP-like object in the Bay Area, in my biased view (I'm a consultant to Digital so the bias is strong). They have better facilities than MAE-W and they aren't subject to ATM's cell tax and PUC vagueries the
Yes, 100%
way Pac Bell's is. The only thing they don't have is a lot of people to peer with, which is a good reason _but_the_only_reason_ why they are not in first place on the west coast.
Yes, true, it would be great of MAE-West of PACBell just moved to PAIX, but I don't think it is worth adding a view when you have established NAPs in the area. I learned this when I when I was building Atlanta-NAP I wanted to build a place better then PAIX (and they did the best job so far), but I found out that people don't care. If I build a NAP that was 100 times nicer then MAE-East (and that would not be hard at all) people would not just move.
The higher quality of the facilities and remote hands at PAIX ought to lead most newcomers to the Bay Area to locate their POP in Palo Alto and run a T3 line to MAE-W or PB-NAP or both. The remote hands people at PAIX are
Yep, that is what we did until our POP is built.
not knuckle dragging frame techs, they are senior-sysadmin-quality technical people who you would be lucky to be able to hire full time if they were available. This makes a huge difference when you want to know WHICH red light is blinking.
On the other hand the original question was about what you need to connect to in order to meet Sprint's or AGIS' peering requirements, and the original answer (a) was correct and (b) did not list DEC PAIX. Therefore I'm really not trying to change the answer, I'm answering an entirely different question.
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