Perhaps you may be unfamiliar with the business model of cities, counties or local PUDs running the fiber last mile network (at OSI layer 1) and providing ethernet transport/VLAN handoffs, installing the OLTs and ONTs, and third party ISPs using that network to provide IP, support, billing and over-the-top services riding on it. In some of these cases the PUD is also the entity which operates the last mile electrical distribution network, and can put fiber on their own poles, which greatly reduces costs and speeds up deployment.

The customers of the half dozen PUDs in eastern WA which use this business model are presently enjoying gigabit class residential access at around $50-75/month and are very happy with it.





On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 10:58 AM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
I think it's hilarious when a governmental entity funded by the taxpayers thinks they have an answer to broadband.  If you're collecting funds from customers, why do you need the City of Sherwood to support your network?

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 6:22 PM Brandon Price <PriceB@sherwoodoregon.gov> wrote:
100/100 minimum for sure.

In our small neck of the woods, we are currently doing 250/250 for $45 and 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.

We have lost some grants on rural builds because "someone" in the census block claims they provide broadband.. Not hard to put an AP up on a tower and hit the current definition's upload speed.

I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer what they "need"... 


Brandon Price
Senior Network Engineer
City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband



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On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
> At least 100/100.
>
> We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore, that’s what I’d start everyone at if I could.


At $50/month or less?

Maximize number of households of all demographic groups.