Yeah, that's not accurate. US organizations sue EU organizations in US courts (and vice versus) on a regular basis but have EU courts collect the damages. Congress can carve out an exemption, but I haven't heard of an effort in that direction getting started yet. In the absence of a legislative exemption the EU regulators can absolutely sue a US entity in US civil courts and get a ruling based on EU laws and regulations. Here's a completely unrelated civil case, on libel, that references the bilateral enforcement and how NY state carved out an exemption. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the... Scott Helms -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
Not really. If you don’t offer services to EU persons, then you are right. However, due to treaties signed by the US and other countries, many places outside the EU are subject to GDPR overreach.
Owen
On May 23, 2018, at 05:36, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
If you don't have operations in the EU, you can not so politely tell the EU to piss off.
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From: "Matthew Kaufman" <matthew@matthew.at> To: "Fletcher Kittredge" <fkittred@gwi.net> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 8:07:15 PM Subject: Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:56 PM Fletcher Kittredge <fkittred@gwi.net> wrote:
What about my right to not have this crap on NANOG?
What about the likely truth that if anyone from Europe mails the list, then every mail server operator with subscribers to the list must follow the GDPR Article 14 notification requirements, as the few exceptions appear to not apply (unless you’re just running an archive).
Matthew