Related to the problem of billing for traffic, I have a problem trying to account for certain traffic. We're using a Cisco 72xx with 12.1 and I have some customers for whom I've setup traffic shaping, based on access lists, at the border to control their aggrigate bandwidth to the rest of the network without limiting their intranet traffic. We need to be able to report the shaping activity to them so they know how it's affecting their traffic. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to monitor traffic shaping stats via snmp. Noticing an update note about snmp and class based traffic shaping with access lists, I tried to set it up that way but for some reason can't use the "shape" command as in the example below ("shape ..." isn't an available command at that point). Router(config)# policy-map dts-interface-class-action Router(config-pmap)# class class1 Router(config-pmap-c)# shape average 16000000 Anyone have a clue on either issue or if it's possible to use snmp to monitor traffic that passes certain access lists? Sorry if this is getting a bit off for this list. Chuck