I think going to other countries gets us a different market (ie less video content/quality, probably significantly less upload due to 384k rates, etc).  I suppose if you're trying to push an agenda it might be a good idea, but I can't imagine a reason we'd want to compare other countries _usage_ to the US.  Just my opinion and thoughts.

The only "definition of broadband" we get is from the FCC which trickles down to the states.

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On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 12:14 PM Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:

Does not need to be – just a suggestion based on the thinking that these locales may have more dense populations and thus perhaps higher FTTH penetration for a longer period of time. But the data from any network will certainly have some interest.

 

From: Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 11:36
To: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>
Cc: Abhi Devireddy <abhi@devireddy.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

 

Why does it have to be non-US?

 

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On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 9:20 AM Livingood, Jason via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:

> I think the 10:1 ratio might have been great 5 years ago, when usage was more asymmetric. The last 5 yrs. have definitely changed the profile of a typical home user. A 4M upload pipe, will hit bottlenecks with all the collaboration that is happening remotely.

I'm not sure ratio is the right thing to focus upon - especially as asymmetry has grown the last few years due to the rising using of streaming video services and greater availability of 4K-resolution content. Ratio seems like more a reflection of current applications and usage patterns. (It would be fascinating to see a non-US FTTH provider that was 1G/1G or greater share their actual usage ratio.)

JL