On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: :Why should they talk to you? You're not a paying customer.. Because their network transits _most_ internet traffic and as a courtesy, they should provide some bare level of diagnostic services to the rest of the network. Maybe this has changed, but last I checked UUNet was practically ideologically opposed to providing a public looking glass inside 701 or 703. So many problems could be solved that way, IMHO. All providers that originate a certain percentage of all prefixes should be obligated to provide a public looking glass. This always made me really mad that the rest of the Internet had to rely on the charity of a few provders for basic diagnostic tools. However, this could very well have changed if there was a public lg in uunet. -- batz