There is a good reason there aren't LOTS of "good" neteng in the 30-35 or under 30 range with lots of experience. Its call the hell we went though for a while after 2000 working in this industry. Many of us lost jobs and couldn't find new ones. I know talented folks that had to go to delivering pizzas ( not to slag pizza delivery folks) to support themselves and their families. Some folks ended up leaving the industry because of it and I'm "sure" lots of people choose to no get into the field seeing no jobs. This type of event causes a whole that takes a long time correct. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Alex White-Robinson <alexwr@gmail.com> wrote:
Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> wrote:
On a slightly different note, however--while it's good to have an appreciation of the past and how we got here, I think it's wise to also recognize we as an industry have some challenges bringing new blood in--and treating it too much like a sacred priesthood with cabalistic knowledge and initiation rites isn't going to help us bring new engineers into the field to take over for us crusty old farts when our eyes give out and we can't type into our 9600 baud serial consoles anymore.
Matt CCOF #1999322002 [0]
I've seen very little attention paid to junior talent in the last few years, and know a few people who would have been talented engineers that never got a chance to show it. They moved into other industries because of the lack of junior roles.
I know very few people in network engineering that are under thirty, and not that many under thirty five.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote: [...]
And this... is NANOG!
Needs more ellipses and capitalization...more like
This...IS...NANOG!!!
building up to a nice crescendo roar as you kick the hapless interviewee backwards down the deep, dark well
On a slightly different note, however--while it's good to have an appreciation of the past and how we got here, I think it's wise to also recognize we as an industry have some challenges bringing new blood in--and treating it too much like a sacred priesthood with cabalistic knowledge and initiation rites isn't going to help us bring new engineers into the field to take over for us crusty old farts when our eyes give out and we can't type into our 9600 baud serial consoles anymore.
Matt CCOF #1999322002 [0]
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