As more and more "legitimate" companies exploit email as a free resource I think we're going to need to broaden the definition of spam. Email is already on the verge of useless. And a lot of that is just pitches from orgs one would, under old definitions, argue are not spam. So the question is whether spam, and we can quibble the word, only email which is UBE or is it email which is rendering the technology useless? I think we've mistakenly via UBE definitions given out free licenses to dump pollution in our drinking water. If you don't think that's a problem right now that's ok I'll be back in a year and two. I believe hearts and minds will change towards my way of thinking about this, it's just a matter of pain threshold. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*