Paul Vixie wrote: I am uncomfortable having folks from the nanog-reform community accepting responsibility for provisional moderation (a form of interim governance),
So am I. However, I will point out that these individuals have acted with precipitation (which is the correct term to use when something happens in a matter of days) and without any kind of endorsement or mandate from the nanog-reform community. See below about the position of the nanog-reform community.
Perception isn't *actually* reality,
[for those not reading nanOg-reform, this is a hidden reference to my yesterday's post] I could live with Paul's phrasing, as long as it is understood in the context I wrote it:
but in politics (which this is) the difference between perception and reality is just not worth discussing.
For the record, with regard to mailing-list moderation (BTW, we call this mailing-list administration now), the collective position of the nanog-reform community can be found in two places: 1. http://www.nanog-reform.org/
List Administration Group Ideally, we would like to see the NANOG mailing list run itself, with peer pressure or self-policing used to keep things on topic. Since we recognize that there may at some point be cases where that doesn't work, there should also be a list administration group with the ability to deal with extreme cases. The list administrators should be selected by the board, and should follow policies set by the board. They should be people with an understanding of network operations and what constitutes on-topic and appropriate discussions. Attempts should be made to steer discussions back on-topic, and to determine whether somebody is really being disruptive, before any enforcement action is taken. There should be thorough public records of any enforcement actions
2. http://www.nanog-reform.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/NANOGReform/DraftBylaws
7.2.2 Mailing List Administrator Selection The steering committee will select the administrators of the NANOG mailing list (discussed further in 8.1.2). 8.1.2 Mailing List Administration The nanog-l will be administered and minimally moderated by a panel selected by the Steering Committee.
William Allen Simpson wrote: Please, the interim-moderators should moderate, and the bylaws drafters should draft, and they should be separate. It's the usual difference between the Chair and the Editor (or Raporteur, or Recording Secretary).
Being one of the "bylaws drafters" I agree with this. Michel.