Thanks Jeff, this is pretty trippy… I mean the fact that VPNV4 L3VPN works over SRv6 ! I’m so accustomed to seeing L3VPN being an MPLS thing, and now, no labels, no mpls. Wow The wireshark sniff shows… Ethernet Ipv6 Ipv4 That’s it. No double mpls tags like I’ve so familiar with. I wanted to look at the MP-iBGP update to see what was in there, but apparently this is so new, it seems that my wireshark decode doesn’t show everything. I see “BGP Prefix-SID” and then an Unknown 37 bytes under that. I wonder if I could enable the SR Wireshark decode. I have had to do that for other protocols in the past. 05 00 22 00 01 00 1e 00 fc 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff 00 01 00 06 28 18 10 00 10 40 -Aaron From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:41 AM To: aaron1@gvtc.com Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8663) and could be used to build innovative, end2end architectures, e.g. draft-bookham-rtgwg-nfix-arch. There is SFC related work, draft-ietf-spring-nsh-sr. And there’s whole SRv6 thingy... Let me know if I can help in any way. Cheers, Jeff On Sep 10, 2020, at 08:10, aaron1@gvtc.com <mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote: Interesting... I've never heard of SPRINGv4 https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/ptx-series/datasheet s/1000538.page I found it in the bottom section I wonder if SPRINGv4 is like SRv6, meaning, SPRING(SR) over IPv4 dataplane? Or, am I reading way too much into that SPRINGv4 acronym? -Aaron