--> -->> > Alexis feels that it's very important to get wide press coverage, to -->> > help to force ISPs/NSPs to filter outbound crap from their network. -->> -->> While I agree with the goal here, I've been a bit disturbed by the -->> undercurrent of antipathy toward 'clueless small ISPs'. I'm as small -->> as ISPs come, and I've been outbound filtering against source -->> addresses not in my address space at least since last April. How many -->> of the clueful here can say that? Not many, I'll venture. For that -->> matter, when did Alexis begin filtering outbound? -->> -->> I'd like the concept changed from 'forcing' to 'educating' and to have -->> it done without disparagement for not already knowing. -->> -->> Dick St.Peters, Gatekeeper, Pearly Gateway, Ballston Spa, NY --> -->Umm, if you've been outbound filtering against source addresses not in your -->address space for many moons, then by definition you are not a 'clueless -->small ISP'... --> -->Avi --> I have been looking through the Bay Networks MIB specification to see how to filter outbound packets. I understand the concept of filtering outbound packets, but am unable to use their site manager program to implement the filters. I know where to look in the mib, but the MIB specification says, "a binary representation of the filter" here and does not elaborate. If it were a cisco, I could easily filter our outbound traffic. If any of you have access to a bay networks router that is not in production, please consider creating some sample filters so I can figure out how to create my own. or if you have a batch file that does it, that would be nice too. Thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------------- | Jeremy Hall Network Engineer | | ISDN-Net, Inc Office +1-615-371-1625 | | Nashville, TN and the southeast USA | | jhall@isdn.net Pager +1-615-702-0750 | -------------------------------------------