On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:01:35AM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
<flame> Ah.. so everywhere you see 'text' and have to input 'text' is DOS? Cool bash == DOS, shells are DOS.
A thing like this: 8<--------- Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
C:\> --------->8 is called a "Command Prompt" and has nothing to do with DOS. Why doesn't anybody complain when it's on *ix boxes ? It's shell everywhere then :)
Pardon me: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] C:\>command /? Starts a new instance of the MS-DOS command interpreter. COMMAND [[drive:]path] [device] [/E:nnnnn] [/P] [/C string] [/MSG] [snip rest of output] Looks like it still claims to be the MS-DOS command interpreter to me, using the 'user friendly' name of 'Command Prompt' doesn't change what it is. [snip]
They didn't 'exploit' me yet in the last 3 years I am using the development versions of the stack :) And everything has bugs
As soon as it's in use enough for an exploit to be useful, it will be.
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[snip links] Don't forget http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/techinfo/administration/ipv6/default.... Which instructs you to go to a command prompt, like I said =)
And as for your "it's difficult': http://www.ipng.nl/index.php3?page=setup.html&forcepage=windows.html Or the single line: "ipv6 adu 3/fec0::1"
Interface 3 (site 1): Local Area Connection uses Neighbor Discovery link-level address: 00-d0-b7-8f-5d-42 preferred address fec0::1, infinite/infinite preferred address 3ffe:8114:2000:240:2d0:b7ff:fe8f:5d42, 2591593s/604393s (addrconf)
Tada ;)
Yes, this is too difficult for 'joe blow user', as I said.
I think the problem is reading the docs is difficult. IPv6 will be/is autoconfig all the way fortunatly so those 'native config' tools isn't going to be used by a lot of people.
Users do not read documentation.
Maybe also a nice tool for people saying "but IPv4 has a GUI on windows" you might like to type 'netsh' ones in your "DOS" prompt ;)
If a user can't point, click, and go, they're unlikely to do something, I've dealt with people that went over a month without their internet access simply because they were afraid they would have to troubleshoot their internet connection over the phone.
btw.. DOS == command.com, NT = cmd.exe, there *is* a difference.
Yes, one is named command.com, one is named cmd.exe, it was easier than typing start <cmd> from the DOS command prompt.
Greets, Jeroen
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