Is it possible to get the list of sites included in this feed. Paul Vixie used to publish these site on his web site, but the "Rogue" sites area has been taken down. Apparently a large number of list "memebers" threaten legal action. They alleged some used this list as a list of targets for retaliation.
http://spam.abuse.net/ is hosted on a vixie machine but not edited by any vixie people. scott hazen mueller, a former employee here, is in charge of that page. i have no editorial input at all other than as an individual contributor. in other details, the above paragraph is factually correct.
We were freuquent reviewers of the list. We used the information there to update our sendmail filters. We were very dissapointed to see it go.
The only trouble I have with Paul's list was it occasionally needed fine tuning by hand. Some sites had to be permitted, even though they may have been guilty of UCE. On one occasion, they had an ISP on their list. This ISP was close enough to us in geographic region that it was reasonable to expect some of our users were emailing users on their system. We could not therefore black hole them.
thank you for that explaination. the black hole list is not for everybody, though i believe that with the "fine tuning" you described, it can be of use to anybody who wants to do more work and get less spam.
It would seem to me that this would be more serious if this were an automatic feed, sent directly to our routers. There would be no way to review the sites on the list before they were blocked.
Perhaps Paul would create a mailing list for network operators interested in receiving his blackhole list. As new updates to the group were made, they could be sent to the list. So as not to appear as though we are looking for something for nothing, we would be willing to donate resources to run the list.
because of my cease-and-desist problem, and my very real worries about "conspiracy in restraint of trade", i will not make the list available other than through a protocol like BGP/TCP which allows me to revoke an entry from the list in real time and without anyone else's participation.