Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but they are not missing anything.. Internet become a consumer product where data is provided by large corporations similary to TV now. Your avarage Joe consumer does NOT care about NAT and that he cant run services or he does NOT have full e2e communication. Yes, you are right, NAT was a second class internet for a while but now it seems that we cannot live without it anymore :) I dont really see other way how I can connect LAN to internet now. Using public IPs? Thats so terrible idea. How can I be el-cheappo dual-homed then? ---------- Original message ---------- From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> Cc: Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:00:38 +1100 There are more smart phones in use in the world today the world than can be addressed by IPv4. Complaining about lack of IPv6 deployment has been legitimate for a long time. Telcos shouldn˙˙t have to deploy NATs. Homes shouldn˙˙t have to deploy NATs. Businesses shouldn˙˙t have to deploy NATs. NATs produce a second class Internet. We have had to lived with a second class Internet for so long that most don˙˙t know what they are missing. -- Mark Andrews