All, Over on another email admin list, a discussion when a participant posted a spam sample, and was told "this isn't the place to post spam samples", led to our forming a private, confidential group where people *can* share spam samples, and discuss related matters. So, we have created that list, which we are calling the Trusted Reporters list. TR is *not* a list for reporting spam *to abuse desks*. It is *not* intended as a list where one could say "so and so is spamming me from $ISP" and someone from $ISP would look into it (although of course if they are on the list, I suppose that they could). TR is *not* a public list where one can publicly post spam. It is, again, a private, confidential list of trusted reporters, for the purpose of discussing spam seen in the wild, ways of dealing with it, and related issues. For example, I have routinely been receiving spam from, among others, Ezoic and planetdatabase.com. I *do* report them, but given that the are sending through places like Google and Amazon AWS it's been useful in this endeavor that at least one colleague has also taken an interest in it. TR *is* a list for those who are interested in learning about the sources of spam when they trust the person who is reporting that information. They can do with that information what they will. TR is a confidential, private list for email *receivers* and *hosts*, and others in the anti-abuse industries. So ISPs, ESPs, spam filters, blacklists, etc.. TR is *not* a list for primary senders. So, if you want to be part of this private, confidential list to report and discuss spam, and related matters, send a note to: trustedreporters-request@isipp.com with 'subscribe' in the subject line. Please include in your subscribe request your name, a bit about yourself and your role in email anti-abuse (this is a list for email receivers and others on the email receiver side of the industry (as compared to primarily email senders)), and that you are from NANOG. Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Legislative Consultant CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Member, California Bar Cyberspace Law Committee Member, Colorado Cyber Committee Member, Board of Directors, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop Member, Board of Directors, Greenwood Wildlife Rehabilitation Center Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Ret. Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of San Jose Ret. Chair, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop