In message <4BCD14EF.8090204@zill.net>, Patrick Giagnocavo writes:
Mark Andrews wrote:
In message <201004200022.o3K0M2Ba007459@aurora.sol.net>, Joe Greco writes:
That'd be easy if you were just starting up an ISP. What do you do with your existing customer base? If their current service includes a dynamic public IPv4 address, you can't gracefully take it away, without likey violating services T&Cs, government telco regulations etc. So you'll have to go through a formal process of getting agreement with customers to take them away. I haven't seen any such documents or regulations.
People purchaced the service on the understanding that they would get a Internet address. A address behind a NAT is not a Internet address, it's a *shared* Internet address which is a very different thing.
Given that many ISPs put their sign-up documents, including contracts, on-line, you can no doubt supply a link to such a document that has legal terms that would preclude NATed service, yes?
My recollection is only that I would be provided with "Internet service" or "access to the Internet" . No mention of RFC1918 space or other distinguishing information was given.
Note in the below blurb no mention of publicly routable addresses...
It doesn't have to as the normal definition of a Internet address is a publically routable internet address. A address behind a NAT is not a Internet address (Big I Internet). If you supply something less than a full blown Internet access you need to point out the restriction otherwise I would expect you to be subject to "Bait and Switch" and other consumer protection laws. Mark
Comcast's contract states:
"Comcast will provide you with dynamic Internet protocol ("IP") address(es) as a component of HSI, and these IP address(es) can and do change over time. You will not alter, modify, or tamper with dynamic IP address(es) assigned to you or any other customer. You agree not to use a dynamic domain name server or DNS to associate a host name with the dynamic IP address(es) for any commercial purpose. You also agree not to use any software that provides for static IP address(es) on or in conjunction with any computer(s) or network device connected to HSI. If applicable, Comcast will release and/or recover the dynamic IP address(es) when the Service or this Agreement is disconnected, discontinued, or terminated."
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