--- bryan@shout.net wrote: From: Bryan Holloway <bryan@shout.net> Had I been a first-time attendee, I would've felt like a high-school freshman being told who all the "cool seniors" were. Frankly, it was awkward and off-putting. --------------------------------------------------- Not only first time attendees, but also long time list participants are made to feel that way; me included for making comments about vendor spam or top posting. I note that not only randy is doing what he says, but other old schoolers are now gone (such as vixie, li and others) who are folks that a person could learn a lot from. scott ps. I always shot peas at the "cool kids" table in the lunch room in high school. From time-to-time I want virtual peas to shoot now days... >;-)