Ladies & Gentlemen, I wanted to check something on an IP address block this morning and, much to my surprise, I don't have access to a single router that has a full table in it - first time since 1999 this is the case. I see route views is still happily serving up shells, but I'm curious to know if there are any other viewpoints available. I am probably going to script something for this particular problem, so I want boxes that have shell access, not graphical looking glass type stuff. I am also plunged into the world of lawful intercept after a long absence. Other than providing muddled responses ten minutes before the deadline on obvious MPAA/RIAA trolls I haven't had to do a subpoena response since 2005 and I've not installed anything that needed to meet requirements since 2009. Is there a good write up somewhere on the current state of affairs? Neal Rauhauser