Without disagreeing that privacy concerns in general are rapidly becoming extinct with generations…

Surely you are not suggesting that my friends-only Facebook profile is somehow publishing my WiFi SSID? 

(For example)

Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
CEO 

lb@6by7.net
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.”

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On Mar 24, 2022, at 6:26 AM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:



I'm surprised we're having this discussion about an internet device that the customer is using to publicize all of their information on Facebook and Twitter.  Consumers do not care enough about their privacy to the point where they are providing the information willingly.

>Consumers should have legal say in how or wether their data are harvested and also sold.

They do. https://www.fcc.gov/general/customer-privacy

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 9:12 AM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <lb@6by7.net> wrote:

This is an enormous problem, see: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2021/10/ftc-staff-report-finds-many-internet-service-providers-collect-troves-personal-data-users-have-few

Consumers should have legal say in how or wether their data are harvested and also sold.

Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
CEO 

lb@6by7.net
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.”

FCC License KJ6FJJ

Sent from my iPhone via RFC1149.

On Mar 24, 2022, at 3:44 AM, Giovane C. M. Moura via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:

Hello there,

Several years ago, a friend of mine was working for a large telco and his job was to detect which clients had the worst networking experience.

To do that, the telco had this hadoop cluster, where it collected _tons_ of data from home users routers, and his job was to use ML to tell the signal from the noise.

I remember seeing a sample csv from this data, which contained _thousands_ of data fields (features) from each client.

I was _shocked_ by the amount of (meta)data they are able to pull from home routers. These even included your wifi network name _and_ password!
(it's been several years since then).

And home users are _completely_ unaware of this.

So my question to you folks is:

- What's the policy regulations on this? I don't remember the features (thousands) but I'm pretty sure you could some profiling with it.

- Is anyone aware of any public discussion on this? I have never seen it.

Thanks,

Giovane Moura