Howdy, Could we drop the SYN/Denial thread? It's becoming rather base. I think there are other larger issues at stake in the world, like routing table growth, code problems, and short-thinking providers who don't retain talent to intelligently/reliably grow their network. If the thread is of continued significant benefit, I'd be happy to host a mail list. SYNDRIVEL, there's a name. Perhaps another could be suggested? Please don't thread off that question :-) -alan ......... Jim Browning is rumored to have said: ] ] >From: Paul A Vixie[SMTP:paul@vix.com] ] >Sent: Monday, September 16, 1996 9:44 PM ] > ] >> Rather than "educate the enemy" via public discussion, I think it would ] be ] >> best if those capable of contributing to solutions to this problem: ] >> ] >> 1. Collaborated in private ] >> 2. Developed a consensus "I-D" ] >> ] >> If a solution is developed whose effectiveness is not weakened by making ] >> the details public, it can be published. If that is not the case, the ] >> solution can be made available in private to "known entities". ] >> ] >> Make sense? ] > ] >No, I don't think it makes sense. Aside from the lawsuits targetting you ] >for conspiracy if you don't include everybody who needs the ongoing ] partial ] >results in order to stay in business, there is NO solution to this that ] >depends on any kind of algorythmic privacy. ] ] Paul, since you have stepped forward to risk lawsuits from blacklisted ] spammers, it would only be fair for one of the rest of us to accept ] liability for this one. Where do I sign up? ;-) ] ] I hope you are right, as the public discussion clearly is very ] worthwhile... ] -- ] Jim ] ] ] ] ]