On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
I've had a little run-in with SPEWS, and the crowd on news:news.admin.net-abuse.email.
I'm curious; do folks take these guys serious?
You don't have much choice. I don't know how commonly SPEWS itself is used to refuse email, but for some times it's been incorporated into relays.osirusoft.com, which, AFAIK, is one of the more commonly used dnsbl's. If you're listed in SPEWS, lots of sites will refuse your email. NANAE is a tough crowd. According to some there, I'm a spammer.
I'll admit, we had an issue with a customer who spammed, and it took us a little while to zap him. Nevertheless, he was zapped. He had a /27, and SPEWs listed the entire /24 surrounding it. When I asked about this, they said, in not-so-many-words, that by doing this, punishing innocent bystanders, that as long as the ISP noticed and fixed the issue, this was essentially OK to do.
I'm curious how you got into SPEWS, and why they chose to hit just the /24 and not a much larger block. They claim to track and pre-emptively block known spammers. Was this a new customer that recently switched to your service and likely spammed before and got their previous ISP into SPEWS?...or was this an isolated spam incident followed by a surprise listing in SPEWS? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________