I like Segal's DoS idea, except instead of the packet generators, let's be nice and just DDoS port 25 on the sunzofbiatches mail servers/load balancers... fight fire with fire... :) On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 20:39, Scott Silzer wrote:
That is exactly what was done to to Futureway a third party spammed for a site hosted by a downstream ISP and the result was there entire network begging blacklisted by SPEWS.
At 15:41 -0800 12/10/2002, David Schwartz wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:45:29 -0500, Scott Silzer wrote:
I could understand if an ISP was allowing spam from a portion of there network. But in this case the only thing that the ISP did is host a website, the SPAM was sent from from a third party's network. The ISP did terminate the customer but in the meantime the entire NSP's network has been blacklisted, for a rouge webhosting account does sound a bit harsh.
A spam blocking service that worked that way would be useless. Anyone could get any site they didn't like blacklisted simply by spamvertising it. Anyone who uses a spam blocking list that works that way is DoSing themselves.
DS -- -JaL
"AFAIK, You think I'm a BOFH for continually bashing you over the head with a clue-by-four. OTOH, if you would just RTFM every once in a while, my life would suck *much* less."