Thanks Tom... I might be wrong, I thought I remembered Ciena not having the MPLS routing capabilities I needed... I do see this on their website... so maybe it does more MPLS L2/L3VPN capabilities than I remembered... I might have to take another look at this and talk to my Ciena POC and VAR... Thanks again. http://www.ciena.com/products/5160/ RFC 2205, 3031, 3036, 3985 MPLS PWE3 Pseudowire Emulation Edge-to-Edge RFC 5654 MPLS-Transport Profile (TP) LSP Static provisioning 1:1 Tunnel protection LSP BFD via Gal/Gach MPLS Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS) RFC 4762 VPLS (Virtual Private LAN Service) and Hierarchical VPLS (H-VPLS) Provider Edge (PE-s) Functionality for VPLS and H-VPLS VPLS with multiple VPLS Mesh Virtual Circuits H-VPLS with Hub and Spoke Virtual Circuits MTU-s Functionality for H-VPLS deployment MTU-s Multi-homing (redundant VCs to different PE-s switches) MPLS Virtual Circuit as H-VPLS spoke Virtual Circuit PBB-TE Service Instance as H-VPLS spoke Virtual Circuit Q-in-Q Ethernet Virtual Circuit as H-VPLS spoke Virtual Circuit MPLS Label Switch Path (LSP) Tunnel Groups MPLS Label Switch Path (LSP) Tunnel Redundancy Layer 2 Control Frame Tunneling over MPLS Virtual Circuits RFC 3209 RSVP-TE (for MPLS Tunnel Signaling) RFC 3630 OSPF-TE (for MPLS Tunnel Routes) RFC 3784 IS-IS-TE (for MPLS Tunnel Routes) RFC 3036 LDP & Targeted LDP (for VPLS VC signaling) RFC 4090 MPLS Fast ReRoute signaling LSP Ping & Traceroute -Aaron