Nonsense. That is hardly their only option as many others have pointed out. It's a deliberate and technically lazy choice to block 6in4 tunnels. Those are not even vaguely the same thing as a VPN. They've decided to break normal IPv6 support and do so in a way that does not even fall back to IPv4. They deserve all the bad publicity that comes with such a anti-customer decision and the blame for their implementation choices cannot be passed back to the content providers. Scott On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com> wrote:
Netflix IS acting in their user's best interest. In order to provide content that the user's want, the content providers have mandated that they do their due diligence to block out of region users including VPN and open tunnel access. As Hulu and Amazon prime become more popular and their contracts with the content provides come due, they will have to also.
You can argue about the content provides business model all you want, but Netflix has to do what they are doing. They aren't blocking IPv6 users, they are blocking users that are using VPNs and/or tunnels since their currently is no practical way of providing GEOIP information about that users that the content providers require.
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-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott Morizot Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:50 AM To: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
I have Hulu Plus and Amazon Prime. The only thing I would miss from Netflix is their Marvel original series. And I can live with that. I can't live without my IPv6 enabled home network and Internet connection since that's an essential part of my job. (I'm the IPv6 transition technical lead for a large organization.) While I actually manage my home internet gateway through a linux server and have fine-grained control over the firewall rules, I'm still debating whether I care enough about a handful of series to continue paying a company that is deliberately acting against its users' interests. Right now I'm leaning toward no. But I'll discuss it with my wife before making a final decision.
Scott
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:
On 6/Jun/16 01:45, Damian Menscher wrote:
Who are these non-technical Netflix users who accidentally stumbled
into
having a HE tunnel broker connection without their knowledge? I wasn't aware this sort of thing could happen without user consent, and would like to know if I'm wrong. Only thing I can imagine is if ISPs are using HE as a form of CGN.
There are several networks around the world that rely on 6-in-4 because their local provider does not offer IPv6.
Mark.