Re: MPLS VPNs or not?

are you running it on the same routers as your main backbone? is it simpler or (someday please, oh godded) less code? tell your bean counters how scalable it is.

and don't give me the bumph about provisioning costs. any transit and/or vpn vendor that is not completely auto-configured knows the deepest, darkest, most horrid, and expensive truth about non- scalability.

Ch vs R: 2:0

Randy, still no arguments,

the depth of your argument is impressive