On 9 Feb 2000, Sean Donelan wrote:
But at NANOG I spoke with several people I thought would know, who didn't. I didn't talk to any GlobalCenter folks because I couldn't find any. They disappeared on Monday. But I did speak with several security people with other providers, and they hadn't heard any confirmed technical details. Just speculation about what had happened. In particular, everyone was wondering what made the attack so hard to detect as a DoS.
I don't get the impression that the attacks are hard to detect from what I've heard. What I have heard is that it's been hard to get people to react and do so in a timely and proper manner.
Ok, I know, I don't work at an ISP anymore, so I'm not a member of the club. I think several departments at WorldCom are under orders not to speak to me. But instead I found the security folks at other providers were happy to talk about it, but didn't know any more than me. This worries me.
I'd be worried if they didn't have theories or know about the known DDoS attacks, but not if they didn't have specifics. Tier1 NSP's seem to be very tight lipped about these sorts of things when they are the victim. I'm sure there are GC employees on this list, but none have come forward to give any details. Could be a gag order, which wouldn't shock me at all. Hopefully we'll know something eventually, but for now we're all mushrooms when it comes to official information. -- Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw@insync.net Computer Security Consultant and Programmer Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am."