*I* invented the modern internet -- see RFC 2235, 1990 entry. The problem with the question is that by and large technical people are not "people people" and hate giving credit where it's due and, given a question like this, will mostly spout jealousy rather than doing the much smarter thing by celebrating those among them who have contributed and making sure their field gets their due accolades in public for their accomplishments. They're just not, as a group, prone to praising anyone but themself. So all this question will evoke in this crowd are these sort of shootdowns rather than the more positive and really completely cost-free and painless "oh yes s/he contributed greatly to the internet and should be noted for it!" -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@world.std.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*