For the sake of it, Justin, I just published https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thubert-v6ops-yada-yatt/. The first section of the draft (YADA) extends IPv4 range in an IPv4-only world. For some people that might be enough and I’m totally fine with that. Keep safe; Pascal From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+pthubert=cisco.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Justin Streiner Sent: dimanche 27 mars 2022 18:12 To: Abraham Y. Chen <aychen@avinta.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC Abe: To your first point about denying that anyone is being stopped from working on IPv4, I'm referring to users being able to communicate via IPv4. I have seen no evidence of that. I'm not familiar with the process of submitting ideas to IETF, so I'll leave that for others who are more knowledgeable on that to speak up if they're so inclined. Thank you jms On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 6:43 PM Abraham Y. Chen <aychen@avinta.com<mailto:aychen@avinta.com>> wrote: 1) "... no one is stopping anyone from working on IPv4 ... ": After all these discussions, are you still denying this basic issue? For example, there has not been any straightforward way to introduce IPv4 enhancement ideas to IETF since at least 2015. If you know the way, please make it public. I am sure that many are eager to learn about it. Thanks.