so i was trying to ensure i had a current set of TALs and was directed to https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-management/certification/r... the supposed TAL at the bottom of the page is pretty creative. anyone know what to do there? i kinda hacked with emacs and get rsync://rpki.ripe.net/ta/ripe-ncc-ta.cerpublic.key.info MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA0URYSGqUz2myBsOzeW1jQ6NsxNvlLMyhWknvnl8NiBCs/T/S2XuNKQNZ+wBZxIgPPV2pFBFeQAvoH/WK83HwA26V2siwm/MY2nKZ+Olw+wlpzlZ1p3Ipj2eNcKrmit8BwBC8xImzuCGaV0jkRB0GZ0hoH6Ml03umLprRsn6v0xOP0+l6Qc1ZHMFVFb385IQ7FQQTcVIxrdeMsoyJq9eMkE6DoclHhF/NlSllXubASQ9KUWqJ0+Ot3QCXr4LXECMfkpkVR2TZT+v5v658bHVs6ZxRD1b6Uk1uQKAyHUbn/tXvP8lrjAibGzVsXDT2L0x4Edx+QdixPgOji3gBMyL2VwIDAQAB but kinda expected an rrdp uri too and, to add insult to injury, the APNIC web page with their TAL https://www.apnic.net/community/security/resource-certification/ requires javascript! not to mention the ARIN stupidity as if we needed another exercise in bureaucrats making operations painful. most operations of any size have internal departments perfectly capable of doing that. randy