BS> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:33:33 +1000 BS> From: Bevan Slattery BS> The service doesn't use a transparent firewall/proxy, but BS> instead updates routing information by BGP and that traffic BS> gets sent to:from the system via a tunnel. Search recent NANOG presentations. Keep an eye out for "Martini Tunnels". BS> One night about 6 months ago, we hosted a Internet Industry BS> night and quite a few of our biggest customers attended. IANAL, but I think this is helpful in establishing the critical date of the claimed. PIPE appears to have joined Postini in thinking a MITM attack is something new and exotic. I've admittedly not read the entire thread, but Squid+GRE+WCCP comes to mind. That combination has been around more than six months. Eddy -- EverQuick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita _________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked.