Good point, never looked at it that way, but I have had techs before that would cut anything they thought was data and sometimes even when they knew it was not. I guess it was Beer:30 time to them :-\ Curtis From: Aaron C. de Bruyn [mailto:aaron@heyaaron.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:45 PM To: STARNES, CURTIS <Curtis.Starnes@granburyisd.org> Cc: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>; Yardiel Fuentes <yardiel@gmail.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema That's a good reason to use it. Who would cut it? ;) -A On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, STARNES, CURTIS <Curtis.Starnes@granburyisd.org<mailto:Curtis.Starnes@granburyisd.org>> wrote: Just to throw it out there but I always try not to use RED cable. Normally, RED wire in any building is dedicated as FIRE system cabling. Curtis Starnes Senior Network Administrator Granbury ISD 600 W. Bridge St. Ste. 40 Granbury, Texas 76048 (817) 408-4104<tel:%28817%29%20408-4104> (817) 408-4126<tel:%28817%29%20408-4126> Fax curtis.starnes@granburyisd.org<mailto:curtis.starnes@granburyisd.org> www.granburyisd.org<http://www.granburyisd.org> OPEN RECORDS NOTICE: This email and responses may be subject to Texas Open Records laws and may be disclosed to the public upon request. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:10 PM To: Yardiel Fuentes <yardiel@gmail.com<mailto:yardiel@gmail.com>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema I don’t know of any universal standards, but I’ve used the following in several installatins I was responsible for to good avail: Twisted Pair: RED: Untrusted Network (Internet or possibly DMZ) YELLOW: Optional for DMZ networks though I preferred to avoid documented in [1] below BLUE: Trusted Network (back-end, internal, etc.) GREEN: RS-232 straight-thru PURPLE: RS-232 X-Over (effectively Null Modem) 12345678 <-> 87654321 pin map. ORANGE: Ethernet X-Over (Best avoided documented in [2] below) GREY: Special purpose cabling not in one of the above categories Fiber: Orange — Multimode Fiber Yellow — Singlemode Fiber The absolute most useful thing you can do if you can impose the discipline to update the cable map rigorously and/or allocate manpower for periodic audits is to apply a unique serial number to each cable. I preferred to document not only the cable ID, but also the length. For the installations where I have worked, 5 digits was sufficient unique ID, so I used formats like IIIII-L[.L] where IIIII was a unique ID and L.L was the length of the cable in feet. (e.g. 00123-6.5 is cable number 123 which is 6.5 feet in length). The labels are (ideally) the self-laminating wrap-around types. I prefer the Brady labeling system which will automatically print 2-4 (depending on font size) instances of the label text on the self-laminating label such that it can be read from virtually any side of the cable without requiring you to rotate the label into view in most cases. The Brady labeling system is a bit overpriced compared to the Brother P-Touch, but the expanded capabilities and the quality of the label adhesives and such is, IMHO, sufficiently superior to justify the cost. Whatever you do, please do not use Flag labels on cables… I HATE THEM. They are a constant source of entanglement and snags. They often get knocked off as a result or mangled beyond recognition, rendering them useless. Similarly, I’ve found that circuit-ID and end-point labels on cables are often ill-maintained, so if you do use them, please make sure you remove them when the cable is moved/removed. The length is very useful because it gives you a radius within which the other end of the cable must be located and you can usually expect it to be reasonably close to the outer edge of that radius. More than a few times I’ve prevented a serious outage by giving the port number to the remote hands guy and then insisting that he read me the cable ID. “No, try the other port FE-0/2/4… You’re off by one. It’s above/left/right/below you.” [1] I prefer to avoid Yellow cables because some people have trouble understanding that Yellow Fiber and Yellow UTP might have different meanings. I also feel that the distinction between UNTRUSTED and DMZ networks is usually not all that important in most cabling situations. YMMV. [2] In this era of Auto-MDI/MDI-X ports and the like, it’s very rare to encounter a situation that truly requires a crossover cable with no viable alternative. If such is needed, I prefer to document it on the cable tags rather than using a special color code. Again, you have the risk of people not understanding that orange Fiber might not mean what Orange copper means. YMMV Yes, I know you can now get virtually any type of fiber in virtually any color, but the simple fact of the matter remains that when you send skippy out to buy emergency jumpers or such, you’re most likely going to either get orange multimode or yellow singlemode and that’s just the way it is. Owen
On Mar 12, 2016, at 11:11 , Yardiel Fuentes <yardiel@gmail.com<mailto:yardiel@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Nanog-ers,
Have any of you had the option or; conversely, do you know of “best practices" or “common standards”, to color code physical cabling for your connections in DataCenters for Base-T and FX connections? If so, Could you share any ttype of color-coding schema you are aware of ?…. Yes, this is actually considering paying for customized color-coded cabling in a Data Center...
Mr. Google did not really provide me with relevant answers on the above… beyond the typical (Orange is for MMF, yellow for SMF, etc)…
Any reasons for or against it welcome too...
-- Yardiel Fuentes