We are seeing issues on our Savvis Internet connections in New York to users in London and Sweden. Not many details yet, just seeing slow and sporadic connectivity. --Vincent From: Todd Lyons <tlyons@ivenue.com> To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Date: 09/18/2014 05:21 AM Subject: Outbound traffic from 208.89.136.0/22 going from L.A. to London? Sent by: "NANOG" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> I'm seeing some weird routing outbound for *some* destinations. Testing from 208.89.139.252. google.com resolves for me to 74.125.239.112 and the outbound path is fast and appears to stay in the US. yahoo.com resolves for me to 98.138.253.109, but the outbound path goes through Savvis London, then to BT, then to Yahoo. # mtr 98.138.253.109 --report --report-cycles 10 HOST: mail.mrball.net Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev ...internal... 5. gw.iv.ivenue.com 0.0% 10 2.7 2.7 2.6 2.8 0.1 6. 64.70.17.121 0.0% 10 2.8 3.8 2.8 11.5 2.7 7. hr2-v3007.la1.savvis.net 0.0% 10 2.8 22.9 2.8 203.1 63.3 8. 204.70.203.90 0.0% 10 4.0 4.3 3.8 5.6 0.5 9. cr1-pos-0-0-0-0.londonuk1.sa 0.0% 10 177.1 157.9 151.1 179.7 11.5 10. esr1-xe-7-0-0.ams.savvis.net 0.0% 10 166.5 166.4 166.3 166.5 0.1 11. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 13. ixp1-xe-11-0-0-0.us-ash.eu.b 80.0% 10 597.0 595.7 594.4 597.0 1.9 14. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 15. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 16. ae-5.pat1.nez.yahoo.com 90.0% 10 546.0 546.0 546.0 546.0 0.0 17. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 # mtr 98.138.253.109 -n --report --report-cycles 15 HOST: mail.mrball.net Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev ...internal... 5. 208.89.136.1 0.0% 15 2.6 2.7 2.6 2.9 0.1 6. 64.70.17.121 0.0% 15 2.8 8.9 2.8 57.5 16.2 7. 64.70.11.57 0.0% 15 2.8 2.9 2.8 3.2 0.1 8. 204.70.203.90 0.0% 15 4.4 5.4 3.7 23.5 5.0 9. 204.70.192.122 0.0% 15 151.2 154.7 151.1 172.9 7.0 10. 204.70.202.2 0.0% 15 166.4 168.8 166.3 202.7 9.4 11. ??? 100.0 15 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12. 166.49.208.90 80.0% 15 508.3 507.2 505.9 508.3 1.2 13. 166.49.208.59 80.0% 15 589.8 589.8 588.9 590.6 0.9 14. ??? 100.0 15 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 15. 216.115.96.81 93.3% 15 521.8 521.8 521.8 521.8 0.0 16. ??? 100.0 15 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 17. 216.115.100.3 93.3% 15 537.4 537.4 537.4 537.4 0.0 18. 98.138.144.29 91.7% 12 537.1 537.1 537.1 537.1 0.0 19. ??? 100.0 5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 20. 98.138.240.28 80.0% 5 537.9 537.9 537.9 537.9 0.0 21. ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 22. 98.138.253.109 66.7% 3 537.9 537.9 537.9 537.9 0.0 Traffic served by Akamai appears to be fast and stays local (i.e. tested to www.apple.com). A call in to Savvis got attached to master ticket 4828052, which is for "large packet loss". Describes the symptom, not the cause. Is there anybody who has more info? Anybody who's a Savvis customer who sees the same weird outbound routing? Or are we the only ones? Feel free to traceroute to 208.89.139.252 to try and duplicate these results. ...Todd -- The total budget at all receivers for solving senders' problems is $0. If you want them to accept your mail and manage it the way you want, send it the way the spec says to. --John Levine