I started my TCP life (moving from broadcast engineering) back in about '94ish. I was in Yakima, WA and took care of the 9 working modems for Wolfe.net after being on connected.com and teleport.com (Portland, OR). My girlfriend (later my wife), who I met online via the unix talk command got hired with me by Wolfe and moved to Seattle. We worked with them for a few years during the dial-up days and moved on to one of their customers where we had massive growth and 2.5Gb/s of pipe in 1998 (yes, it was pr0n.) Then I went to AMZN and got their first netblock after haggling with ARIN at a BOF at NANOG 19 in Atlanta. See back then, AMZN could only justify a /22 since we were just a website. Many years later I landed in corporate aerospace and will likely die here at my keyboard.

Anyway, now when the youngins ask me technical TCP/IP questions I like to start off with, "Well, back when we were building the Internet..."

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 7:49 AM Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Aside from me pinning the start of the bubble closer to 1992 when
commercial activity was allowed, and M&A for ISPs at insane valuations
per subscriber by 1995 (I had co-founded an ISP in 93, but try as I
might I cannot remember if it peaked at 50 or 60x1 by 1996 (?) and
crashed by 97 (?)), this was a whacking good read, seems accurate, and
moves to comparing it across that to the present day AI bubble.

https://www.fabricatedknowledge.com/p/lessons-from-history-the-rise-and

In the end we sold (my ISP, founded 93) icanect for 3 cents on the
dollar in 99, and I lost my shirt (not for the first time) on it, only
to move into embedded Linux (Montavista) after the enormous pop
redhat's IPO had had in 99. The company I was part of slightly prior
(Mediaplex) went public December 12, 1999 and cracked 100/share, only
to crash by march, 2000 to half the IPO price (around $7 as I recall),
wiping out everyone that had not vested yet. I lost my shirt again on
that and Montavista too and decided I would avoid VCs henceforth.

I am always interested in anecdotal reports of personal events in this
increasingly murky past, and in trying to fact check the above link.

So much fiber got laid by 2000 that it is often claimed that it was at
least a decade before it was used up, (the article says only 2.7% was
in use by 2002) and I have always wondered how much dark, broken,
inaccessible fiber remains that nobody knows where it even is anymore
due to many lost databases. I hear horror stories...

The article also focuses solely on the us sector, and I am wondering
what it looked like worldwide.

I believed in the 90s we were seeing major productivity gains. The
present expansion of the internet in my mind should not be much
associated with "productivity gains", as, imho, reducing the general
population to two thumbs and a 4 inch screen strikes me as an enormous
step backwards.

(I have a bad habit of cross posting my mails to where older denizens
of the internet reside, sorry! If you end up posting to one of my
lists I will add a sender allows filter for you)
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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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