-----Original Message----- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bicknell@ufp.org] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:32 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,Prioritized Traffic?
In a message written on Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:50:21AM -0400, Joe Provo wrote:
[cue endless thread of knee-jerk responses; can we just Godwin it now please?]
Of course Hitler was the first to propose pay-to-play internet traffic. :)
Well done. :)
Consumers are more in need of regulatory protection than business customers, at $19.95 a month they are viewed as expendable by many of the companies that offer consumer services, and are often served by a monopoly or duopoly, often at the encouragement of government. They can't vote with their dollars as we like to say, and need some protection.
OK... so doesn't this speak to the commoditization of service providers? I'm against more regulation and for competition.
However, the proposed "remedies" of banning all filtering ever, or requiring free peering to everyone (taking both to the extreme, of course) don't match the operational real world. Many of those who are pushing for network neutrality are pushing for an ideal that the network simply cannot deliver, no matter what.
Agreed. The bulk of the "Net Neutrality" crowd lives in a dream world. Most (maybe some, maybe a few depending on your view) approach filtering as a solution to a technical problem not as a money making proposition. I have always espoused it only as a fix to technical (security, abuse and the like) issues.
Rather than network neutrality, I'd simply like to see truth in advertising applied. If my provider advertises "8 Mbps" service then I should be able to get 8 Mbps from Google, or Yahoo, or you, or anyone else on the network, provided of course they have also purchased an 8 Mbps or higher plan from their provider. I don't care if it is done with transit, peering, paid priorization, or any other mechanism, those are back end details that will change over time. I don't care if it is Google building their own network, or you buying 8Mbps service from your local monopoly ISP.
Explain how the provider of access is supposed to be able to control all of the systems outside it's control to get a specific speed from a content provider. If you are espousing contracts with each content provider, then you will quickly be destroying the Internet. We advertise a rate and ensure we have no congestion on our Internet connection to ensure that all demands for traffic are met on our side. I cannot ensure that site X will not be flooded or have other restrictions on its bandwidth that will prevent your full utilization of the bandwidth. - Brian J. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, copying, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you.