This is not surprising to me as Dlink was one of my co-authors for RFC8585 ... and they indicated in v6ops that implementing CLAT was really easy. I guess they need to improve the GUI, etc. Note that with 464XLAT, you still need the NAT64 at the ISP side, and also, the traceroutes will shows something weird, so not trustable unless you understand very well how it works. However, testing a web site or other services will work fine. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 5/8/19 3:45, "NANOG en nombre de Philip Loenneker" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org en nombre de Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au> escribió: Moving away from the discussion around what technology people may choose to go with, and instead what CPEs may be suitable... I know this is 464XLAT rather than MAP-E that was originally requested, but recent versions of D-Link firmware, eg for the DVA-2800, include the CLAT functionality. My testing in November last year showed that it only partially worked, with the traceroutes to 64:ff9b::1.1.1.1 working, but it would not automatically translate a traceroute to 1.1.1.1 to the IPv6 version. There have been a few new revisions since then and it is on my to-do list to re-test things, but I haven't had the time. It is also worth noting that, in the original firmware revision I tested, I had to manually enter the URL for the CLAT configuration screen. It simply wasn't on the menu. On another version, it had a link to DS-Lite configuration, and from there you get a link to the CLAT options. It is possible that other devices and/or vendors also have this option, or options for similar technologies such as MAP-E, but they just don't have a link to it in the interface. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Masataka Ohta Sent: Monday, 5 August 2019 11:07 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: MAP-E Baldur Norddahl wrote: > Or the case of Playstation network. Yes they WILL blacklist your CGN > just the same as they can blacklist a shared MAP ip address. Except it > affects more users. If IP address sharing by blocks of ports becomes common and there is typical block size (say, 1024), blacklisting will be done block-wise. Masataka Ohta ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.