It's not uncommon for empty conduit in the ground to accumulate water, sometimes very dirty water. The usual quick fix is some compressed air in one end and all the goop hopefully comes out the other. Be sure to let anyone around the other end know before you turn on the air so they can clear the end of the cable. Imagine Old Faithful as a cold mud bath... :) -Al -----Original Message----- From: David Lesher [mailto:wb8foz@nrk.com] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 6:18 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Update: CSX train derailment I asked a resident who happen to work in the area re: the 30kft temporary fiber run. See <http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/bal-traingridlockmap.graphic> for a map. It must be in a tunnel. I drove right past there today on my way to work and didn't see anything at all. The Sun {newspaper} is on Calvert St. between Center and Orleans. There are no visible aboveground cables (phone, electrical, cable) on Calvert or on Guilford for as far as I can see from the windows right now. There was a later reference to pipes blocked with mud. Do we infer they got permission to run it through storm sewers? In any case, that was fast work by the fiber folks.. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433