RB> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:26:47 -0600 RB> From: Randy Bush RB> and what was the effect in the ietf? zippo. Exactly. I'm claiming that the meeting was a more effective vehicle than a mailing list for the group of people involved -- NANOGers. I'm also suggesting that, by extension, cross-pollination between NANOG and IETF meetings would be more efficient than simple forays onto "the other mailing list" (with "other" defined by one's perspective). Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.