On a more positive note, the IPv6 IoT can be seen as an experiment on how we can scale the internet another order of magnitude or 2 without taking the power or the spectrum consumption to the parallel levels. For that we turned protocols like ND and MLD from broadcast pull to unicast push in a way that respects the device sleep cycle. We also introduced routing inside the subnet at scale and got rid of the need for common broadcast domains. With that the Wi-Sun alliance deployed millions of nodes per customer network, with thousands to tens of thousands nodes per subnet. All operating in cheap constrained nodes, unreliable radio links, and scarce bandwidth. I hope I’ll see the day when we manage to retrofit that in the mainstream stacks; there’s a potential to turn the fringe of the internet a lot greener. Sadly the IPv4 ways (like use of L2 broadcast and mapping IP links and subnets to lower layer constructs) are entrenched in IPv6, and we are facing a lot of resistance. Stay tuned, Pascal
Le 10 août 2022 à 06:29, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> a écrit :
ROTFL!
Yes, every time I’ve run into Bob at a conference he always introduces himself this way: “I’m Bob Metcalfe, the inventor of Ethernet.”
-mel
On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:20 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:06 PM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
Robert Metcalfe, InfoWorld columnist and the inventor of Ethernet, also in 1995: “I predict the Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996 catastrophically collapse.”
In 1998 I invited Mr Metcalfe to address the IETF on the collapse of the Internet, which he renewed his prediction of. He declined.