-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Sean Donelan The U.S. government definition of data center is a bit like defining a warehouse as any room containing a single ream of paper. Yes, warehouses are used to store reams of paper; but that doesn't make every place containing a ream of paper a warehouse. ---------------------------------------- --- Steve.Mikulasik@civeo.com wrote: This is a great way to create a mess of rules. Need a server for running an app locally to a site? You need XYZ standards that make no sense for your deploy and increase the cost by 10 times. Our server guys always try to set standards, then they run into a deploy where the needs are simple, but the standards make it significantly uneconomical. --------------------------------------------- Been there, done that, got many t-shirts. There is no thought at all to economics. None. People that have absolutely no experience in networking or computers (read: can barely operate M$ computers) make these rules/definitions/processes. It's not even sausage when they're done. It's post-digested sausage. For example, read about the OPM fiasco: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach I'm one of those 21.5 million people. Fingerprints, SSN, address, etc, etc, etc. scott