Hello, I also just want to make clear that there is nothing personal going on neither from my side. BTW, I tried to answer this directly to you, but as you block the whole 200/8, it was not possible. Interestingly, this could be your your first "ham" message from LACNIC region. Not this time... :( I sent my message to the list just to make it clear that not everyone in LACNIC region is spammer. The way you said the following: | Behind all of LACNIC's 200/8 and Iskimaro, whoever the heck they are! sounded that you had no idea what LACNIC is, and don't even care. To you it is just a bunch of spammer. Other might had the wrong impression that really doesn't matter what LACNIC is, and start to block the 200/8 because someone does so. Just my thoughts, Regards, Ricardo. On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 10:03:31AM -0800, just me wrote: | | On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Ricardo G Patara wrote: | | On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:59:01PM -0800, just me wrote: | | | | Behind all of LACNIC's 200/8 and Iskimaro, whoever the heck they are! | | I'd say that it is not a wise thing to do, but it is up to you. | | Inside this /8 block there are a lot allocation to important networks | in our region. | There is also, users that send spam from these IPs, but I see this all | the time from IP blocks of all over the world. | | | It is an effective solution in my specific application, with my set of | users. I have a 100% hit rate with no false positives. I am not | suggesting other folks do the same unless their requirements are also | the same. I certainly wouldn't do this at my day job as | postmaster@sony.com, for example. | | According to some statistics USA is one of the top in the list of | spammers. | Do you filter all American blocks in your network? I guess not. You | wisely filter only some, like this 69.6.0.0/18. | | I filter the blocks that I see a 1:0 spam to ham ratio from, wherever | they are located. I also try to aggregate where I can. The LACNIC | blocks were a convenient place to do so. | | Do you filter all Asia blocks? I guess not... | | I certainly do filter abuseive asian networks, except for networks | that my users need connectivity to, or networks that I have not seen | abuse from: | | http://mrtg.snark.net/blacklist.cgi | | I think you'll see that there's no region singled out there. You might | also be forgetting that the reason I singled out the LACNIC blocks, is | that they are the third largest source of unwanted SMTP traffic I see. | | I'm sorry if my actions have offended you, because there really is | nothing personal going on here, just pragmatism and a desire to | prevent as much spam as possible from reaching my users. | | Matt Ghali | speaking as postmaster@snark.net only | | --matt@snark.net------------------------------------------<darwin>< | Flowers on the razor wire/I know you're here/We are few/And far | between/I was thinking about her skin/Love is a many splintered | thing/Don't be afraid now/Just walk on in. #include <disclaim.h>