Hey Sabri, Eventually they have implemented everything ;-) Arista was a really special case, routing stack they acquired (NextHop) had no mpls (quite some time ago), 90% of their revenue was coming from IP only networks. Life is good, MS is treating me well :). Kids are growing, Marina’ business doing ok. How’s life on your side? Would love to meet, lunch or so? Cheers, Jeff
On Jan 16, 2022, at 13:19, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Plane IP underlay works real well, I’m yet to see tangible proof of TE in DC (outside of niche HPC/IB cases). SR in DC - with overlay starting on the host SR-MPLSoUDP(RFC8663) is a perfect representation of a working technology that works in IP environment as well as allows end2end programming for MPLS WAN/DCI. Here’s an example of end2end architecture that works really well - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bookham-rtgwg-nfix-arch/
Geneve (there are some quirks as you get into implementing it) is another example of a well designed overlay encap.
Cheers, Jeff
On Jan 15, 2022, at 23:54, Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 19:22, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:
True, but in general MPLS is more costly. It's available on limited devices, from limited vendors. Infact, many of these vendors, like Extreme, charge you if you want to enable MPLS features on a box
Marketing, not fundamentals. DC people are driving demand for VXLAN and SRv6, because they assume MPLS is something scary and complex. So vendors implement something scary and complex to appease DC people. I'm sure in some years to the future, DC people will re-invent MPLS to simplify their stack.
-- ++ytti